WTF Charlie Veitch???
Federal Jack
July 1, 2011
“There isn’t any evidence for 9/11 being an inside job.”
Back in 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Cass Sunstein co-wrote a paper titled “Conspiracy Theories: Causes and Cures” proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and “independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites, as well as other activist groups that have “anti-government conspiracy theories” and his primary target is the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Cass Sunstein now works for the Obama Administration. This brings us back to today.
The founder of the Love Police Charlie Veitch has released a new video where he says he no longer believes 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMopKnT_V5c
In this new video, made just 11 days after Charlie attended an event his girlfriend helped organize, that brought Richard Gage from AE911Truth to Cambridge University, we see and hear Charlie say after 5 years he has changed his mind and he doesn’t think 9/11 was an inside job. He thinks the Government was caught with “their pants around their ankles” just like the official conspiracy theory.
Charlie Veitch on what he called a paid trip by BBC changes his mind about the 9/11 terror attacks. He claims that there is NO evidence for controlled demolition! He then goes on to talk about how people are filled with hate and hang onto their conspiracy theories.
Charlie is interviewed again here:
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Charlie, your publicity undoubtedly exceeded the permissible “threshold”. Subsequently, you were threatened. These are the tactics employed by fascist elements controlling governments. Now you are reciting their fairy tale like a parrot. I pray that you tell the world how these monsters threatened you.
so, I think it’s obvious, Charlie has gotten into a lot recently, suits against him… probably more. It’s my opinion that Charlie is being manipulated to put egg on his face publicly and to decentralize any sway he held with people. Either that or he sold out which I doubt… so maybe he under mind control? I’m serious.
Now Charlie just disregards all the other evidence and 1000′s of architects, builders and demolition companies opinions?? That was quick, something is not right. It was like a brainwashed person speaking?
Good lesson for everyone . When it comes down to torture and survival don’t be surprised who tucks tail and runs . Or , who turns on you . Talk is always cheap .
guys its text book agent swap……brit aint allowed to spy on brit.
so they use american, but if he hasn,t sold out how did he tracvel
It would be obvious that a BBC sponsored event would have everyone Charlie met on this trip, parrot whatever slant the BBC wanted told.
Anyone immersed into an intensive campaign like that would come away toeing the party line. What makes me believe this so strongly (outside of GB and his “conspiracy theory” speech!) is the illogicalness of the entire interior steel girders being pulverized.
Charlie’s been on an immersion trip; time will tell if he starts thinking critically again.
9/11 was done by “directed energy weapons” read “Where did the Towers go?” making SAIC and ARA involved since they make these types of weapons and are involved in pysops! Richard Gage and Steven Jones are part of the sophisticated controlled opposition, maybe even Alex Jones.
http://www.drjudywood.com/
http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/
http://www.checktheevidence.com/cms/
This is known disinfo, just as the ‘no planes’ theory & ‘mini nukes’ were.
Check it out but always think critically before stepping into any side roads offered to you.
I also think people are still trying to make excuses for CV.
He is obviously a paid plant & his job was to infiltrate the truth movement then perform a public volte face.
He’s not only changed his mind, based on 1st grade debunker stories, but he is attacking ALL truth movements as paranoid, hateful, quasi religious, cult members.
Hence his previous calls to armed revolution, his repeated endorsement of government agents provocateurs the Blac Bloc.
I feel sorry for him. It profits a man nothing to sell his soul for the whole world, but a BBC TV show..?
Well said Winnie – Steven E,Jones is a known disinformer – he did it first for cold-fusion – now he is derailing 911 truth with thermate, thermite, nano this and that. DrJudy wood is well worth your time. Direceted Energy weapon is most likely scenario.
He has a new job with the BBC from what I can tell…..!!!!!!!!!!!
Sad sad man!!
Maybe Charlie has been replaced by one of their clones?
Go figure why Veitch “changed his mind.” Did he really take a harder look at the available 9/11 evidence as he claims? Was he coerced into recanting like some commenters suggest? Was he working for the 9/11 conspirators to begin with and played the useful role of a highly inquisitive individual who is capable of changing his mind?
It is hard to know. Nor does it matter. Veitch’s latest professed opinion is the product of either some mental disorder–possibly resulting from coercion–or hypocrisy–possibly reulting from coercion too.
What matters is that Veitch’s statements have never affected the reality of the 9/11 false flag and that “we the gullible people of the world” live in a sinister global Platonic theater, where Platonic actors like Veitch provide us with purposely altered information. The importance of 9/11 is precisely that it clearly demonstrates the existence of this global Platonic theater, whose actors include prominent leaders most opposed to 9/11-induced policies.
Anyway, if you ever meet Veitch, kindly invite him to refute http://www.911babystep.com.
Love,
looks like charlie has seriously sold out. The arguments he is presenting are as ‘half-truth’ as those he now questions in the truth movement! Why are people so angry? Probably because you sold out. One minute your all, “9/11 was an inside job”…”WAKE UP SHEEPLE”…and the next your one of the ‘unenlightened sheeple’ you were slagging off for the past x5 years!Charlie, your totally entitled to do a u-turn based on ‘no-nonsense new evidence’ by ‘professionals’; but don’t expect anyone to be that interested. Next week you’ll be telling us all that Bilderberg meetings are nothing more than an exclusive mens club!
DNA from Pentagon aircraft?
There was no plane.
What about Ventura’s episode on it?
Gimme a break. Caught red-handed. Charlie is pathetic. I didn’t know it was a BBC trip. Charlie is a coward. If he was really spiritual, he would realize that if you know God, you fear nothing except for Him, including death.
In a video called Chelie Veitch wasn’t joking. Charlie insinuated he was from intelligence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuIeZw8dss
And here you can read about infiltrating in anti-globalist movements: http://the-classic-liberal.com/cass-sunstein-conspiracy-theory-introduction/
This is forced. Notice in his latest video how he was saying “meeting ____”, “meeting _____”, “meeting _____” as he showed footage of police cars and cops? No coincidence. The truth movement is being forcibly dismantled.
This is why I support prisonplanet.tv / infowars.com with 2 memberships, moneybombs, and purchases through out the year, each, and every year. I look at the voice of Alex Jones as like the bootleg broadcast on the film THEY LIVE. That signal has to go out no matter what, and with Alex you get someone who has been on the right side of 9-11 truth from day one, and that will never change!
I can hear the wailing now, HE DOES NOT ATTACK ISRAEL! I say who can, who can attack the Zionist Israel, and still be a viable site for waking up the masses? To me, being part German blood, the number 6,000,000 is the true mark of the BEAST! I’ve had a belly full of it, as I have had with the total fabrication of WORLD HISTORY as taught to us in school.
I am also realistic enough to realize that will not change under our current system. That they are going to bring us the same thing they have done to Ireland, and Greece is also without doubt. We have got to stop these people before they destroy our infrastructure as they have done to Yugoslavia, and Iraq.
Guys lice Charlie Vetch, or Daniel Estulin will come, and go. They are subject to influence or threats without the backing to command a wide scope of protection. That’s why were building up the Alex Jones News Analysis Service to bring a wall of truth, backed by people around the world, who are ready to ignore petty things to achieve the overall objective, and that is a world free of war, and destruction, to promote HUMANITY above all else.
Alex Jones is a gatekeeper, and a schill. He keeps people on a certain level and never evolves as I have, and many others. What happens when you lose faith in him? Going to kill yourself?
Justin says:
July 4, 2011 at 7:18 AM
“Alex Jones is a gatekeeper, and a schill”.Come on, get %&£ing real Justin.He wouldnt be saying the thingshe says if he was a shill.
What would you do if “they” threatened to harm your family, set you up for an arrest on false charges or threatened your life?
hes controlled opposition – almost all of them are. hes an agent provocateur – protesting, shouting, confrontations with the police – he is manipulating you all and wasting your resources and bringing on hate and manipulating people into confrontations with authority – he knows by getting you all to march in the streets – that unrest will come of it – they will provoke it – hes already done it many MANY times
plus he spreads disinfo – as now seen so clearly with his change of mind on 9/11
He was probably always an agent… As we all know, it is *impossible* to buy the ‘official conspiracy’ if you spend any time looking into it.
Charlie lured dissidents along a pied pier’s path, so the cult of personality would take hold of their collective senses, assuming that when he switched they would go with him! It’s the same with Terral03 who just recanted his Elenin emergency plans, supposedly after finally listening to a NASA spokesman. Alex Jones and David Icke rouse suspicians too. Anyone milking undue emotional admiration and advocating uprising, instead of discreetly TCB, is a hypocritical opportunist or a shill. DISENGAGE
Charlie’s knowledge as a truther has never been that deep. His antics on youtube, while they might be fun and have been an effective means of getting the message out there, he is no researcher.
The BBC, using tried and tested ‘behaviour modification’ methods on Charlie, bamboozled him with a lot of info, which it seems he has been susceptible to. A classic pawn in the game who has been manipulated. Maybe he’s been promised greater riches, I bet he soon becomes rent-a-debunker for the British press and tv.
Will the BBC pay for an expert on demolition with a lot of background research on 9/11 under his belt to meet the same people, no of course, not, the BBC have an agenda to cover up the crimes of the US government.
It all makes you wonder??
Why was charlie so loud and in your face?
What elite genes created such a tall man?
Why did charlie obtain 2 minders (bodygaurds) for the past year or so for all major engagements?
Is Charlie’s girlfreind silki’s family a member of the runing elite?
Before the royal wedding where was he taken for 24hrs + ?.
these and many more could be answered however the bottom line is this .Charlie was a plant all along and many of us fell for it (although not 100%) or Charlie has had the lives of his nearest and Dearest threatened and his buckled under pressure rather than carry the guilt of the actions carried out by uk secret service. SS (clues in the word get it!) as backlash. Either way another one bites the dust RIP charlie love and blessings Matt.
What does this tells us, humanity is doomed. Charlie vietch had definitely been threatened and given an offer he refuse. What a shame, I always thought he’s one to look out for in bringing out the truth.
Offer he can’t* refuse.
You conspiracy Nutters are crazy: each one with a more outlandish version than the next. No, a man can’t simply change his mind after pursuing the evidence; he must be brainwashed or a double agent! No, a building can’t simply collapse after being struck by an airplane & burning; It must be a controlled demolition. I find it’s often YOU people who are the most intolerant to change, not just the “powers that be”. If you all care so much about the world you live in, I suggest you all take a good long walk in your neighborhood and start by helping those in your own environment. No government is ever going to admit to these conspiracies and no right minded population will allow conspiracy junkies to make policy. To me, sounds like you’re wasting your time. but hey, that’s just my own opinion. Good luck.
They removed the “WTF Charlie Veitch” due to copyright infringement!!! Bastard YouTube
I don’t agree with Charlie’s change of perspective, but my god, you people sicken me. All he did was change his mind, and suddenly he’s the antichrist.
You’ve all decided to hate him, because he doesn’t agree with you. You’re like religious fundamentalists declaring a fatwa on anyone who dares commit heresy against the official dogma.
The endless tirade of utterly baseless conspiracy theories about him being an agent, or mind-controlled, or being one of the “elite” are just so absurd that all you are doing is reinforcing to the world outside of the truth movement that nobody should take you seriously. Why would any sane person believe you when you clearly demonstrate that you believe things with no evidence?
The truth movement is finished, it has nothing worthy left to contribute other than spite, hatred and absurdity.
Omg this one troll decided the truth movement is finished.. OH NO everyone stop talking about 9/11 Truth. LOL give me a break. This is most likely either CHARLIE himself or a friend connected to him. Sorry shilling doesn’t work anymore!
Talking of ‘baseless conspiracy theories’, how did you arrive at the conclusion that everyone of us hates him? In fact you’ve fallen for the same logic trap you accuse others of. For the record, I feel sorry for him and I’m sure that many others of ‘us’ do. And his change of heart is not going to really affect how people perceive the world situation one bit; not coming from someone who was initially so anti establishment one moment, and then, voila! volte face.
This reminds me of the confessions in Orwell’s 1984
what’s the real reason charlie changed his mind about 9/11?
http://littlebiggy.org/viewSubject/4645607
charlie says he wants to raise love and end fear by being spiritual? he says hes quite shocked and suprised at the hatred and anger against him? well people are quite hurt by how you have called them all conspiracy nuts, charlie!!! but dont worry about that charlie, thats just theyre human emotion shining through. when that particular emotion calms down the people will start forgeting about you charlie, and soon you just wont be takin seriously by any one with any degree of common sense or knowledge. also charlie keeps mentioning china, when we all know that the rothschild family are the financial advisers to china (which basically means that they are in control of china and its directions and decisions). is charlie just a naive idiot? has charlie been put under an advanced form of mind control? who cares!!! i will continue on the path of truth as will many others and i will put charlie and his actions down to a good learning experience that has made me wiser to the ways of the illuminati. r.i.p the credability of charlie v
the end
@gaia “time will
tell if he starts thinking critically again.”
By “critical thinking”, it seems you mean anyone who agrees with you. It seems anyone who disagrees with you is not thinking straight.
Someone can believe something is true, and not think critically, and vice versa. I hope you understand this because it relates to the paragraph before this one.
I think the most important point with 911 is not how the buildings came down, but how the US government seized the opportunity to introduce ridiculously broad anti-terror laws to control the world’s citizens.
We will never know the truth behind 911. As with JFK we can only solve it with a time machine. So people on both sides need to focus on making the world a better place.
Conspiracy theorists often get so obsessed with conspiracies that they lose focus on what’s important. You and Charlie don’t have to agree on everything surely? You probably both want the world to beva better place?
Anyway just some thoughts.
well done Charlie for having an open mind!!!
A mind that can be changed through scientific reasoning.
When faced with competing hypotheses that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions is generally the correct assumption. This is basic science people!
it was known about and allowed to happen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVnQPGE36P4#t=19m55s
This is the moment which convinced charlie!? It’s where a controlled demolition expert says the tower will stop tipping over mid air rather than continue to gain momentum tilting towards its weak side as it already was, and at a certain point inevitably fall through itself because of lack of support underneath it[!], even despite being unable to demonstrate this with his LEGO, because of course even LEGO has enough structural integrity not to do that even under surprising weight.
I thought I recognised this Charlie guy from the Love Police on Youtube, then recalled that he’d positioned himself as representing the movement in some way, and considered whether he’d been subverted / infiltrated, having reflected on the Cass Sunstein and DEMOs papers calling for exactly that at good length I know its a possibility, but I highly doubt thats necessary with the likes of Charlie here. I just think he lacks any critical faculties.
My friend coined a term which describes this show perfectly: “Post Ironic”, defined as something like: ‘Unwittingly employing extreme irony. Being unaware of the extreme irony of a situation or statement. Such as in this program, where an actual comedian host seriously employs eggs and water bombs to prove 9/11 wasn’t an inside job, then gets frustrated and swears at them for not buying into the ‘scientific experiment’, totally unaware that the script reads like its from ‘The Onion News Network’.
Tom Sullivan of Controlled Demolition Incorporated might cringe at this, as would many others with eyes, and a basic knowledge of the physics of planet Earth.
I think Charlie may be the first person I know of to realign himself from an alternative viewpoint – questioning the governments version, back to supporting the official version, I understand this only insofar as this road trip video exposes his complete lack of any critical faculties or independent thought. The program helps to remove the serious demand for a new investigation by omitting things such as the 9/11 commissioners statements, and casting the whole subject area as unhinged, which is presumably the aim, aside from convincing people to swallow the official theory whole by not looking at that, or questioning anything to do with it.
I wish Charlie well, but think he’s a gullible sucker. The guy is so anti-hate he has learnt to love his criminal government too. 9/11 shows like this, using eggs water bombs and flour should denigrate the official theory to anyone with a brain, not convince skeptics! I wouldn’t instantly distance myself from someone just because of their change of view, but based on this video??…This is the weakest video I’ve seen try and counter critical questions of the official theory – its so bad its near comedy – so frankly Charlie – you’re a mug – perhaps pretending you’re infiltrating the movement may make you seem a little more intelligent than being swayed by this post ironic spoof of a show, hosted by a second rate comedian. Still, I gather he has done some good presenting key work to others.
I imagine he will appear on more shows like this, for his unique reformed opinion on the mindset and psychology of conspiracy theorists, I wonder, if he is how energetically he contributes to future Onion-esque shows that oppose his previous un-questions about the cover up of 9/11. TV producers will climb over themselves for this useful idiot.
The more I look at this overnight switch, the more suspect it looks!
For this comedian-hosted eggs-and-flour spoof to convince someone familiar with some of the important facts around 9/11 is highly suspect, to me at least – someone able to think – it indicates he is either an infiltrator, or he is bloody easy to influence, one of the two.
It seems to me that this Charlie Veitch have not changed his mind regarding the 9/11, but his mind is under control of the others.
In my opinion, He simply lost this brain.
I have listen to his explorations regarding the 9/11. There is not at least one plausible statement in his opinion. He doesn’t have any fundamental understanding in Physics, Chemistry or Mathematics.
Law of nature cannot be faked by any stupid official assumptions and theories.
Sorry, but since my birth I have not seen so brainless people like this guy.
I am very sorry that Charlie Veitch lost his brain!